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Transcript from August 28, 2010 to August 30, 2010 |
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All times are Pacific Time
| August 28, 2010 | ||
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| 5:18 pm | Chronotope: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is this Sunday at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 7:02 pm | TauhidChappell: | RT @Chronotope: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is this Sunday at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 7:55 pm | AramZS: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is this Sunday at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| August 29, 2010 | ||
| 7:55 pm | collegejourn: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 9:17 pm | newzed: | RT @collegejourn: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 9:18 pm | saragregory: | RT @collegejourn: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 11:12 pm | Lenny_Neslin: | Nice! RT @collegejourn: Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is today at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 11:21 pm | collegejourn: | Hey #collegejourn – The first #cjchat of the Fall semester is tonight at 8 p.m. Our topic is Bringing in the freshmen! |
| 11:45 pm | newzed: | Join me for a #cjchat TweetChat at: http://tweetchat.com/room/cjchat #cjchat |
| 11:54 pm | AramZS: | RT @newzed: Join me for a #cjchat TweetChat at: http://tweetchat.com/room/cjchat |
| August 30, 2010 | ||
| collegejourn: | Hello #collegejourn and welcome to the first #cjchat of the Fall semester and new school year. Our topic tonight is Bringing in the Freshmen | |
| 12:03 am | Chronotope: | Let’s introduce ourselves. Say who you are, what college you’re at and position you hold in your college media outlet. #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 12:05 am | saragregory: | Hey #cjchat. I’m Sara Gregory, a UNC senior and @dailytarheel’s community manager. |
| 12:05 am | newzed: | Good evening & welcome back all  i’m El Heller, managing editor @outlookpress, student paper @sunyrockland in Suffern, NY #cjchat |
| 12:06 am | AramZS: | Hey everyone, I’m Aram Zucker-Scharff @Chronotope and I am the community manager for @GMUStudentMedia (George Mason University) #cjchat |
| 12:07 am | Lenny_Neslin: | What’s up everyone? My name is Lenny Neslin, I’m managing editor for The Quinnipiac Chronicle. Worked under @AndrewVazzano last yr. #cjchat |
| 12:07 am | AramZS: | @TauhidChappell @Lenny_Neslin Hope you can join us for #cjchat tonight? |
| 12:08 am | AramZS: | @saragregory @newzed Welcome, glad to have you here tonight! #cjchat |
| 12:12 am | AramZS: | Q1: Recruiting Freshmen? Have you reached out to them over summer, how are you following up to bring them in? #cjchat |
| 12:14 am | TauhidChappell: | Crud! I’m late!! #cjchat |
| 12:14 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Don’t think we’ve reached out to anyone this summer. Our main source of recruiting is an involvement fair early on in the semester. #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | saragregory: | We send all freshmen a “welcome to UNC” issue in the summer. Follow up at Fall Fest (a school organization fair before class). Q1 #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | newzed: | Q1: staff attended orientation & spoke to students. we also went to the honors orientation. a bunch of talented students there. #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | AramZS: | @TauhidChappell @Lenny_Neslin Hi! Good to have you here! #cjchat |
| 12:15 am | TauhidChappell: | Q1: We had this thing called Gobblerfest which is a festival for everyone in the community.A lot of student clubs/local businesses– #cjchat |
| 12:16 am | saragregory: | Q1 We also have interest meetings the first few weeks of school and give tours of our office. #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | TauhidChappell: | Q1 reserve tables up and down this long street and try to recruit students/potential employees.We had a table up from 11 a.m.- 7 p.m #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | collegejourn: | Q1: Recruiting Freshmen? Have you reached out to them over summer, how are you following up to bring them in? #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @saragregory I like your idea of a welcome issue. What sort of stuff do you include in it? How long? Send PDF via email? #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin We’ve reached a lot of freshmen during Mason’s orientation sessions. A lot of people signed up at least #cjchat |
| 12:17 am | TauhidChappell: | Q1: Also using Facebook/Twitter to reach out and get freshmen interested. #cjchat |
| 12:18 am | AramZS: | @saragregory I like that idea, office tours sounds like a good way to pull interested people in. #cjchat |
| 12:18 am | newzed: | Q1: we will also continue to invite students to our club meetings so can see who we are. #cjchat |
| 12:19 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Good stuff. Definitely something to think about implementing for next year. #cjchat |
| 12:19 am | TauhidChappell: | Belated intro: I’m Tauhid Chappell and I’m the Executive Editor for Planet @blacksburg, a student run media org at Virginia Tech #cjchat |
| 12:20 am | saragregory: | @Lenny_Neslin Our summer staff puts it out just like the usual paper. Articles like “best places to study” etc. that gets mailed. #cjchat |
| 12:21 am | AramZS: | RT @Lenny_Neslin: @saragregory I like your idea of a welcome issue. Send PDF via email? [You could post it and send us the link ] #cjchat |
| 12:21 am | AramZS: | @saragregory Is there a lot of re-printable evergreen content in your welcome issue? #cjchat |
| 12:21 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @saragregory Having a summer staff would be nice. Ha. Our best bet would be to get together some time over the summer and design it. #cjchat |
| 12:22 am | saragregory: | @AramZS @Lenny_Neslin Can’t find a PDF online and not in the office now. I could e-mail it to you if you DM me your addresses. #cjchat |
| 12:23 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin I know that our paper has folks come in a week early to work on the first issue. Perhaps that’s an option? #cjchat |
| 12:24 am | Chronotope: | @saragregory Very cool. Do you do any demoing of tech or procedure or just walk them around the office? #cjchat |
| 12:24 am | TauhidChappell: | @saragregory I really like the @dailytarheel’s web design! #cjchat |
| 12:25 am | Lenny_Neslin: | FYI: My paper’s website is www.quchronicle.com We’re on Facebook and Twitter too. #cjchat |
| 12:26 am | newzed: | here is a “Freshman Survival Guide” from the @dailyemerald (PDF & Online) #cjchat |
| 12:26 am | Shishev: | RT @TauhidChappell #cjchat http://bit.ly/9E6jDz |
| 12:28 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Great website. I see you use Issuu, was it easy to set up? #cjchat |
| 12:28 am | AramZS: | @newzed I think you left off the link. #cjchat |
| 12:29 am | AramZS: | By the way, if you have a question you’d like us to discuss just @ reply me. #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 12:29 am | newzed: | woops, here is the link folks: http://www.dailyemerald.com/magazine #cjchat |
| 12:30 am | AramZS: | @saragregory So you mail the issue to all the freshmen’s homes? Isn’t that expensive? #cjchat |
| 12:30 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Very easy to instal. Issuu is a great sidebar widget for newspaper websites. It tracks views for you, I think. #cjchat |
| 12:31 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Great, great newspaper website. Powered by MTV?? RT @newzed: woops, here is the link folks: http://www.dailyemerald.com/magazine #cjchat |
| 12:31 am | AramZS: | RT @newzed: woops, here is the link folks: http://www.dailyemerald.com/magazine [Daily Emerald's freshmen guide. Nifty.] #cjchat |
| 12:32 am | saragregory: | @AramZS I’m not sure the cost to mail it, but it’s well-supported with advertising. #cjchat |
| 12:32 am | newzed: | @Lenny_Neslin yes, it’s running on @collegepublish #cjchat |
| 12:34 am | AramZS: | Ok. Moving on to Q2 now, though feel free to continue discussion on Q1 as well. #cjchat |
| 12:36 am | AramZS: | Q2: The incoming class is more mobile + social media savvy then ever. How are you reaching out to them via new media? #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 12:36 am | collegejourn: | Q2: The incoming class is more mobile + social media savvy then ever. How are you reaching out to them via new media? #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 12:37 am | newzed: | re: issuu, be sure to check out their “shelf” feature. great for archives. (sample: http://www.outlookpress.org/2.10751) #cjchat |
| 12:37 am | TauhidChappell: | Q2: Facebook primarily.A lot of #hokies are on facebook, but not many are on Twitter. Hoping to introduce Twitter to our new members #cjchat |
| 12:37 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano @Lenny_Neslin Good to know. We’ve been using a custom program, but I’ll have to look into switching. Thanks. #cjchat |
| 12:38 am | TauhidChappell: | Once we introduce Twitter…Will have to teach how to tweet efficiently and effectively as a journalist. That’ll be fun #Ithink #cjchat |
| 12:38 am | newzed: | @AndrewVazzano not sure if any one responded, we are @OutlookPress #cjchat |
| 12:40 am | newzed: | Q2: it’s facebook for us. twitter hasn’t taken off yet in our school (or so it seems) #cjchat |
| 12:40 am | AramZS: | We’ve been looking into using QR/Barcodes in our posters and ads. We want mobile-ready links to sites and specific content. #cjchat |
| 12:41 am | TauhidChappell: | RT @collegejourn: Q2: The incoming class is more mobile + social media savvy then ever. How are you reaching out to them via new media? #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 12:41 am | saragregory: | Q2 We reach out via @dailytarheel, Facebook mainly. Have been active on the UNC class of 2014 Facebook page and other UNC groups. #cjchat |
| 12:42 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano Not sure, but still a decent number are on CP. Just look at the Pacemakers – http://bit.ly/a1w9uj #cjchat |
| 12:43 am | AramZS: | @saragregory Interesting. Most of our activity is on our own page, not inside their groups. Have you had a good response? #cjchat |
| 12:44 am | saragregory: | @newzed @TauhidChappell I find the majority of UNC students who have Twitter protect their accounts. Facebook still dominates. #cjchat |
| 12:45 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano I concur. I think that the #collegejourn scene is slowly but surely moving away from CP because of that. #cjchat |
| 12:45 am | newzed: | @AramZS @AndrewVazzano CP has become more aggressive in showcasing customization. see recent blog post http://bit.ly/bjYIWM #cjchat |
| 12:46 am | AramZS: | @saragregory We have a growing number of Twitter users [see: @GMUStudentMedia/ultimate-gmu-list ] that we try to keep up with. #cjchat |
| 12:46 am | AramZS: | @newzed I expect they have to be. The field has quickly gone from no competition to a lot of competition. #cjchat |
| 12:47 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS We’re talking about QR codes now, too. Put them on the front page. Scan and read the “paper” on your phone. #cjchat |
| 12:48 am | newzed: | @AramZS @AndrewVazzano sorry, this is the link i wanted http://bit.ly/9xQf2y interesting post visualizing top sites on CP #cjchat |
| 12:48 am | saragregory: | @AramZS I’d say decent. I also try to tag UNC pages when I post a link to an article on our page that involves their group. #cjchat |
| 12:49 am | Amadeus3000: | Anthony Capps. An editor at the Iowa State Daily. Also trying to pay attention to the Emmys. #cjchat |
| 12:52 am | AramZS: | @newzed Huh. If there’s a lack of inspiration, someone should put together list of good looking #collegejourn sites for reference #cjchat |
| 12:52 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Welcome! I honestly forgot all about the Emmys >.< #cjchat |
| 12:53 am | TauhidChappell: | @AramZS I like that idea! #cjchat |
| 12:54 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 We’ve been looking at that as well. http://www.stickybits.com/ looks like it might have some potential also. #cjchat |
| 12:55 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano Really? That’s unpleasant sounding. Most of the people I’ve talked to have had a smooth transition out of CP. #cjchat |
| 12:56 am | AramZS: | Tip: If you want to use QR codes, you can get the small 100×100 kind here – http://createqrcode.appspot.com/ #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | newzed: | @AramZS @TauhidChappell you can start here http://www.collegemediainnovation.org/blog/ & http://collegemediamatters.com/ #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | AramZS: | I’d love to use StickyBits to create commenting areas and virtual mini-tours on objects around campus. The app is still a lil rough #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Loving this idea. RT @AramZS: Tip: If you want to use QR codes, you can get the small 100×100 kind here – http://bit.ly/amxbru #cjchat |
| 12:57 am | Amadeus3000: | @collegejourn Q1 Reference: We have a Daily Directory http://bit.ly/9qjdPk … then a Welcome Back edition http://bit.ly/bTyJPd #cjchat |
| 12:59 am | AramZS: | @newzed We should really put together a list of them, all in one place, with screenshots and thumbnails. Something more accessible. #cjchat |
| 12:59 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin We’ve been putting them in posters around campus. Some link to the site, others to specific articles. #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | collegejourn: | Q3: What positions do you make available to Freshmen in your #collegejourn outlet? Where do you recommend they go? #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | AramZS: | Q3: What positions do you make available to Freshmen in your #collegejourn outlet? Where do you recommend they go? #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | AramZS: | @AndrewVazzano I can imagine #cjchat |
| 1:00 am | newzed: | @AramZS sure, we can do it together #cjchat |
| 1:01 am | AramZS: | @newzed Sounds good to me #cjchat |
| 1:01 am | tgounley: | Hey, #cjchat. Thomas Gounley, Executive Editor of @thenewhampshire. |
| 1:02 am | saragregory: | Q3 Freshmen work one day a week for us their first semester. Usually aren’t hired as editors until after second semester. #cjchat |
| 1:02 am | AramZS: | We actually had an incoming freshmen who lived locally come in over the summer interested in writing right away. #cjchat |
| 1:02 am | AramZS: | But enthusiasm may not = reliability or quality. How do you work with that? #cjchat |
| 1:03 am | newzed: | Q3: start of as contributing writers, after set amount of articles become staff, then are offered promotion as appropriate. #cjchat |
| 1:03 am | tgounley: | Q1 Come back few days early and put together an issue for freshmen. “Freshman 15″ theme this year- 15 articles about surviving UNH #cjchat |
| 1:03 am | AramZS: | RT @andrewvazzano: Oh, people, if you know any out of work journalism graduates (possible in CT), let them know we’re hiring and to contact me. #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | AramZS: | @tgounley Welcome! #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS We discussed how to use QRs in special sections (specially our bar guide). Use the codes as another online refer. #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | saragregory: | Q3 They also must attend a certain number of weekly seminars led by our adviser. Basic writing, reporting, newsroom advice. #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Same RT @newzed: Q3: start of as contributing writers, after set amount of articles become staff, then are offered promotion (maybe) #cjchat |
| 1:04 am | saragregory: | That’s all new as of last year, and really helped us retain freshmen! They got lots of one-on-one help and didn’t feel so lost. #cjchat |
| 1:05 am | tgounley: | Q3 #cjchat Most everyone starts as contributing writers. Good ones become staff writers, eds eventually. Different for design, photogs. |
| 1:06 am | AramZS: | @saragregory That’s good. Do you know about how much time ended up going into the freshmen help sessions? #cjchat |
| 1:06 am | saragregory: | @AramZS We let local incoming freshmen work over the summer. They get a lot of hand-holding until we see what they’re capable of. #cjchat |
| 1:07 am | Amadeus3000: | Q3: Get the programmers / developers / web geeks. However, few organizations have the money those people can earn elsewhere… #cjchat |
| 1:07 am | tgounley: | Q3 #cjchat Looking to offer a little more one-on-one guidance between eds and freshmen writers this year. Often aren’t in journo classes. |
| 1:07 am | AramZS: | Do you have any specific projects for freshmen? #cjchat |
| 1:07 am | TauhidChappell: | Q3: (part/full-time)Photographers,writers,editors,reporters,videographers. We have established officer positions for the time being.#cjchat |
| 1:08 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 I’ve encountered a bunch, but many don’t come in thinking that a media outlet is something that would interest them #cjchat |
| 1:09 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 What can you say to appeal to the more technically-able freshmen to get them on board? #cjchat |
| 1:09 am | newzed: | @tgounley same here, many students join as a way to be involved. don’t necessarily want to study journalism. #cjchat |
| 1:09 am | saragregory: | @AramZS There were 7 hour-long sessions a semester last year. Our adviser usually offered 2 time slots, so 14 hours + planning time. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | AramZS: | @saragregory Intense. Freshmen sat through the whole 7 hours or was it split up among individual time with multiple people? #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | tgounley: | @newzed Yeah. Plus, typical journalism student still doesn’t take basic newswriting class until 3rd semester. So ability varies. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | newzed: | @AramZS @saragregory i guess at a larger paper that’s possible. at our community college that would never happen. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | Amadeus3000: | New freshmen reporters are just like any reporter. Must go through training. Attend section meetings. Produce content like others. #cjchat |
| 1:11 am | saragregory: | @AramZS Sorry, that was seven sessions of one hour each. They had to attend four. Different speakers, topics each time. #cjchat |
| 1:12 am | AramZS: | @newzed @tgounley Definitely important to train them all the same. Do you need different approaches for j-students/non-j-students? #cjchat |
| 1:13 am | Lenny_Neslin: | We’ve had P.T. majors join our paper. Our sports section is by far our largest section (by people) despite our sub-par sports teams. #cjchat |
| 1:14 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin People get really intense about their sports teams, whatever their quality . #cjchat |
| 1:15 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS Offer the possible developers a vision. Here’s our ambitions – mobile, apps, post-web. You can create it. Leave a legacy. #cjchat |
| 1:15 am | TauhidChappell: | I like the idea of holding training sessions separate from a general meeting. Problem is scheduling these sessions. #cjchat |
| 1:15 am | AramZS: | RT @Amadeus3000: @AramZS Offer the possible developers a vision. Here’s our ambitions – mobile, apps, post-web. You can create it. Leave a legacy. #cjchat |
| 1:16 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Very true. I was the sports editor last year and I didn’t know what to say to other editors about retaining my large group. #cjchat |
| 1:17 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @TauhidChappell Last year I led a sportswriters workshop – obviously a lot easier to schedule with smaller groups. Do that maybe? #cjchat |
| 1:20 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin @TauhidChappell We also ran section-internal training at one point. Still hard to schedule. :/ #cjchat |
| 1:21 am | Amadeus3000: | @Lenny_Neslin When an editor hits 8 reporters I think they’ve maxed out. When they reach 9, time to find a second editor. #cjchat |
| 1:21 am | TauhidChappell: | @Lenny_Neslin Good idea. I’ll be looking at my officers to lead their teams and train whoever needs it. #cjchat |
| 1:21 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS @TauhidChappell Best way to get around that? Throw free food at them. Pizza works like a charm! #cjchat |
| 1:22 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Good to know. Have you had 3 or more editors in a section? Is it difficult to coordinate them? #cjchat |
| 1:22 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @Amadeus3000 I experienced this last year. Had 10+ kids turn out for each meeting. I took it on alone for a while, but it was a lot. #cjchat |
| 1:23 am | AramZS: | Question 4 in three minutes. Is there something you want to ask the group? @ reply me to have your question included. #cjchat |
| 1:25 am | williampd: | Is #cjchat still going on? William P. Davis, former editor of @TheMaineCampus and online editor of @BangorDailyNews |
| 1:25 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Ah, Pizza, the ultimate college recruitment tool  #cjchat |
| 1:25 am | AramZS: | @williampd Yes and Welcome! We go until 10. #cjchat |
| 1:26 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Question idea: How often do you put out your paper? Include your staff’s total size. #cjchat |
| 1:26 am | AramZS: | Q4: Training staff, new and old. Obviously a big issue. What are your favorite training materials and techniques? #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 1:26 am | collegejourn: | Q4: Training staff, new and old. Obviously a big issue. What are your favorite training materials and techniques? #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 1:28 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Biggest problem school newspapers have are writers not hitting deadlines. Solution: Great communication. Get cells, IM, email, etc. #cjchat |
| 1:29 am | williampd: | @AramZS Oh goody. I’ve never actually joined in. #cjchat |
| 1:30 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Have you seen one communications method keep them on task better than others? #cjchat |
| 1:30 am | AramZS: | @williampd Well, glad to have you this time. Hopefully you’ll make it to future chats as well. #cjchat |
| 1:31 am | newzed: | @williampd hey, do you know what’s running mainecampus.com? #cjchat |
| 1:31 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Q4: Pop quizzes at general staff meetings. We also come back to school a weekish early for training sessions each semester. #cjchat |
| 1:32 am | williampd: | #cjchat Q4: I made a custom test for training copy editors, etc. Materials should be custom to cover problems that differ paper-to-paper. |
| 1:32 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS The news reporters are divided among 4 assistant news editors. They’re overseen by the news editor, who’s big picture-minded #cjchat |
| 1:32 am | AramZS: | @newzed Interesting WP skin they have there. #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Cell phone #s by far. AIM second. Last year I texted my writers for in-game updates. I texted them deadlines. #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | TauhidChappell: | RT @collegejourn: Q4: Training staff, new and old. Obviously a big issue. What are your favorite training materials and techniques? #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | williampd: | @newzed Don’t remember the name at the second, but I can get it for you later. Why? #cjchat |
| 1:33 am | AramZS: | @williampd @Lenny_Neslin – Interesting. We have copy tests also, but not for contributers. I’d love to see some examples? #cjchat |
| 1:34 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Nifty. We don’t see a lot of AIM users at Mason anymore. Mostly Facebook chat now. #cjchat |
| 1:35 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @williampd I like the idea of creating tests for copy editors-in-training. I’m on it! @QUChronicle #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin Yeah. Years ago we had a problem with the quality of copy editors’ work, that was when we put together the test. #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | AramZS: | Curiosity: How many of you have in-house style guides? #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | newzed: | @williampd reminds me somewhat of http://www.idsnews.com & nyt. just curious. #cjchat |
| 1:36 am | williampd: | @AramZS Test includes grammar, style and university-specific knowledge. Part of it’s at http://bit.ly/baznsA #cjchat |
| 1:37 am | TauhidChappell: | @Lenny_Neslin Good idea. Keeps them coming back to meetings for one thing! #cjchat |
| 1:39 am | williampd: | @Lenny_Neslin I gave it to all the assignment editors, as well. Really gave me a good idea of where our editing weaknesses were. #cjchat |
| 1:41 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS Our in-house style guide has about 300 entries. #cjchat |
| 1:41 am | AramZS: | @newzed @newzed Yeah, it looks like that was what they were going for. They’ve done a pretty good job of it too. Wonder what theme. #cjchat |
| 1:41 am | AramZS: | Q5 arrives in 4 minutes. #cjchat |
| 1:42 am | riocarmine: | #cjchat Mario Moretto, former news editor for @themainecampus, current copy editor for Kennebec journal @kj_online |
| 1:43 am | AramZS: | @riocarmine Welcome! Glad to have you here! #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @riocarmine Glad to see some college newspaper grads are getting jobs. How’s the real world? #cjchat #journalism |
| 1:44 am | williampd: | @riocarmine Heyyyyoooooo! #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Mostly stuff relevant directly to your university or specific style choices that are applied generally? #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | Amadeus3000: | @williampd @AramZS We’ve considered a grammar/university quiz for everyone in the application process. #cjchat |
| 1:44 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 What about freshmen who may not know as much about the university yet? #cjchat |
| 1:45 am | collegejourn: | Q5 (via @Lenny_Neslin ) – How often do you put out your paper? Include your staff’s total size. #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 1:45 am | AramZS: | Q5 (via @Lenny_Neslin ) – How often do you put out your paper? Include your staff’s total size. #cjchat #collegejourn |
| 1:46 am | williampd: | @Amadeus3000 @AramZS Tests are important for finding faults, but don’t let them dominate. Look for promise, as well. #cjchat |
| 1:47 am | newzed: | Q5: our paper comes out every two weeks (don’t laugh, it used to be monthly). our staff size varies. #cjchat |
| 1:48 am | AramZS: | Broadside, @GMUStudentMedia ’s print paper, is released every Monday during the school year. #cjchat |
| 1:48 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @newzed Please ballpark it for us (me). I’m very curious. #cjchat |
| 1:49 am | riocarmine: | Q5: Our paper was twice-weekly, with a senior editor staff of about 10, plus a couple dozen or so hourly staff and freelancers. #cjchat |
| 1:49 am | williampd: | #cjchat Q5: @TheMaineCampus puts out twice a week. EIC, 8 editors, 2 asst. editors, 6 copy editors, 3 designers, varying writing staff + biz |
| 1:50 am | Amadeus3000: | @AramZS Half and half. The guide is kept online so it changes regularly. Mostly clarification if someone sees various options #cjchat |
| 1:51 am | riocarmine: | #cjchat Q5: What @williampd said. |
| 1:51 am | AramZS: | Broadside has about 17-20 senior staff, 4 copy editors, 2 designers and an extremely variable set of contributers. #cjchat |
| 1:51 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @williampd We’re a little smaller than you, but we go weekly. What days do you put out? We go Wednesday. #cjchat |
| 1:52 am | saragregory: | Q5 We’re daily Monday-Friday, with an EIC, managing editor, about 40 paid editors and 150 or so volunteer staffers #cjchat |
| 1:52 am | AramZS: | @Amadeus3000 Good call with that. Our style guide is still print and bound. On what platform do you maintain your guide? #cjchat |
| 1:53 am | newzed: | @saragregory okay, things are starting make sense here… #cjchat |
| 1:54 am | AramZS: | @saragregory *jealous* #cjchat |
| 1:55 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin I always wonder if it might be wiser to go out mid-week. W/a Mon paper we have trouble covering weekend events. #cjchat |
| 1:55 am | newzed: | @saragregory how many work on the design? #cjchat |
| 1:56 am | Lenny_Neslin: | I think we need a separate chat for rich, giant school papers like @saragregory’s. #justkidding #cjchat |
| 1:57 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @AramZS Mid-week is nice. Weekends are free for designing, but so many events need to be covered and aren’t newsworthy a week later. #cjchat |
| 1:57 am | AramZS: | @Lenny_Neslin  – It’s also a matter of ad support. Bringing in money = more paper and staff. #cjchat |
| 1:58 am | saragregory: | @newzed There are typically three or four design editors, maybe 10ish staffers. @kellymchugh would know for sure. #cjchat |
| 1:59 am | saragregory: | @newzed @Lenny_Neslin Staff retention, getting folks excited, keeping them excited, etc… still a struggle for larger papers too. #cjchat |
| 1:59 am | AramZS: | Wrapping up: Please come by again this time next week for the next #collegejourn chat. Submit topic ideas for next week to me via @ #cjchat |
| 2:00 am | TauhidChappell: | Q5: No paper! Strictily online #cjchat |
| 2:00 am | AramZS: | I’ll also be putting up an archive of this chat at collegejourn.com, which I’m hoping to update (as a site) soon. #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | newzed: | TIP: i post relevant links throughout the week w/ the tag #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | Amadeus3000: | Q5 Mon-Fri paper. EIC, 2 MEs 22 editors, 40+ reporters. 20 in copy/design. 16 ad reps. 4 online dev. 12 in ad creation. All pay. #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | AramZS: | And finally, if you are not already on the list at http://twitter.com/Chronotope/collegejourn – tell me so I can put you on. #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | saragregory: | RT @newzed: TIP: i post relevant links throughout the week w/ the tag #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 2:01 am | TauhidChappell: | @AramZS Another great #cjchat! Glad it’s back! |
| 2:01 am | newzed: | thanks for chatting, good night #cjchat |
| 2:02 am | riocarmine: | To all my non-newsy twitter friends: Sorry for the #cjchat clutter. |
| 2:03 am | AramZS: | @riocarmine I actually set up a separate account for chat because of that problem. My main account is @Chronotope #cjchat |
| 2:03 am | williampd: | @Lenny_Neslin Mondays and Thursdays. #cjchat |
| 2:03 am | AramZS: | RT @saragregory: RT @newzed: TIP: i post relevant links throughout the week w/ the tag #collegejourn #cjchat |
| 2:03 am | williampd: | FYI, all our editors are salaried, copy editors and designers are hourly, writers are paid by the article. #cjchat |
| 2:04 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Madness, but awesomeness. RT @Amadeus3000: Q5 Mon-Fri paper. EIC, 2 MEs 22 editors, 40+ reporters. 20 in copy/design… All pay. #cjchat |
| 2:04 am | AramZS: | Thank you to everyone who made it tonight! I hope to chat with you soon. Good night and good luck with your new year/classes. #cjchat |
| 2:08 am | Lenny_Neslin: | Just printed out @williampd’s copy editing test. http://bit.ly/bBb4o5 Great chat, I’ll be back next week! #cjchat |
| 2:11 am | Lenny_Neslin: | @saragregory Gotta make it fun! I definitely suggest social outings (dinner, sporting event) for newspaper staff/e-board #cjchat |
Hello everyone!
CollegeJourn chats continue to be on hiatus for the summer. However, there are still possibilities to virtually gather over the summer, if people are interested. I’m assuming the same time slot in the poll here, but if you’d like a different day and time you can enter it into the poll.
Beyond that, we’ve played around with a few other options for chat platforms over the summer, and I’d like your opinion on which you liked best for the fall.
Thanks for your votes,
-Aram
Thanks to all participants in tonight’s #collegejourn chat! You can read the transcript here.
What did you think of running the chat on Twitter tonight? Would you like to do it again or do it some other way?
Hello CollegeJourn,
Tonight we are going to be trying something different and running our chat on Twitter. Use the hashtag #cjchat to participate in the discussion.
Not sure what the best way to participate in tonight’s chat is? You can use your normal Twitter app and follow the hashtag or use TweetChat. You can log into TweetChat with your Twitter account and use the site to participate in the Twitter conversation as if it was a chat room.
In order to not bother your followers you may want to warn them before we begin or start up an alternate Twitter account for the chat.
-Aram
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